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[lakecountry]

I guess I just need to vent and I know everyone gets their share of these and I'm preaching to the choir.

I'm just trying to figure out what's up with all the crappy submission coming from so call SEO company sites. I know you get them and know what I mean. It seems lately I get dozen of submission daily from companies claiming to be the "best SEO company" in the world and they can't even write a proper description.

It's not just your typical spammy submissions, there's plenty of that, but stuff that's so poorly written it makes no sense as well. Now I normally edit, rewrite or change up most descriptions but for free submissions I'm not always inclined to completely write a description from scratch for "1# SEO Company" which should know how to do it properly in the first place

I can understand someone that's not a native English speaker possibly having difficulty with spelling, punctuation and grammar so that's not the issue or a problem for me. I edit all my submission and making corrections in this area is something I routinely do.

I don't know. I guess I'm just amazed that so many claiming to be SEO experts apparently don't have a clue how write a decent description and submit to directories with with any real hope of their spammy nonsense getting accepted. It's as if they all go to the same school and learn how to write the same crap.

If they are doing this for paid clients sites then they are certainly doing them a disservice because their acceptance rate must really suck.

I know it's all part of running a directory but it sure gets aggravating at times. Anyway, I feel better now

[mimika]

For the same reason we're starting our Guidelines with warning:

Second, we will not alter content of what you submit to us nor we will move your submission to appropriate category. If you don't know where your site belong and how intelligently to describe your site then we will simply reject, delete or in some cases blacklist it.

We actually stopped blacklisting sites because we don't want to punish owners, but we start blacklisting IP addresses of every "Best SEO Company" we can find to stop flood of spammie descriptions.

There is big difference between correcting bad grammar and completely re-writing description.
If you want to have fun, then visit our forum and read some "Why rejected?" posts
http://www.amray.com/forum/viewforum...e881970 de21e



mimika

[lakecountry]

Originally Posted by mimika

If you want to have fun, then visit our forum and read some "Why rejected?" posts
http://www.amray.com/forum/viewforum...e881970 de21e

Great blog and I can definitely relate. I'm sure I have seem some of the same people on my directories!

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by mimika

There is big difference between correcting bad grammar and completely re-writing description.
If you want to have fun, then visit our forum and read some "Why rejected?" posts
http://www.amray.com/forum/viewforum...e881970 de21e

I thought my policies were strict, but after reading those posts I see I could take it even further. Thanks, Mimika, for putting in the effort to teach all those people how to submit properly.

[George]

Thanks, Mimika, for putting in the effort to teach all those people how to submit properly.

Good luck! Even complaining to USA Companies that hire foreign seo companies that do crap work doesn't resolve anything.

[ModCars]

Originally Posted by lakecountry

It's not just your typical spammy submissions, there's plenty of that, but stuff that's so poorly written it makes no sense as well. Now I normally edit, rewrite or change up most descriptions but for free submissions I'm not always inclined to completely write a description from scratch for "1# SEO Company" which should know how to do it properly in the first place

I bet most of those are coming from India where their first language is not English. It seems everyone in India and their dog is internet aware these days and looking to make money from it.

Originally Posted by mimika

For the same reason we're starting our Guidelines with warning:

I think that's poor ... you want the content but you want the submitter to do all the work? If it's spammy its spammy but if it's misplaced but adds quality to your directory you'd rather delete than move it to the right category? Does that mean you're just offering a listing service rather than a directory service?

[George]

I agree.. if people can't submit right because they are lazy or stupid (the main reason stuff ends up in the wrong category, my objective will be on how to make sure I don't ever get anymore of their nonsense with the least effort possible on my part.

There are plenty of submitters of QUALITY sites that make QUALITY submissions that the mass of garbage (sites and/or submissions) from the bottom of the pile needed get a moments attention.

Now, if someone submits a quality site with a quality description and makes a typo or something than I would be happy to correct it. But a site that is paying for a CHEAP submission service that does crap work... I am NOT going to fix it (for free).

a directory implies organization
FREE implies the submitter needs to take responsibility for a great deal

I find India to be the worst for poor quality submissions for others. Pakistan coming up second. China seems to do a poor quality of submissions for their own sites. Of course India has a very large population so that may account for the appearance of more junk from India.

p.s. mod cars I didn't reply to your PM because you didn't reference any of our directories and I can't speak for others.

[mimika]

Originally Posted by ModCars

I think that's poor ... you want the content but you want the submitter to do all the work? If it's spammy its spammy but if it's misplaced but adds quality to your directory you'd rather delete than move it to the right category? Does that mean you're just offering a listing service rather than a directory service?

Most likely you missed this part

There is big difference between correcting bad grammar and completely re-writing description

There is also big difference between correcting someone who is obviously new to Internet and directory submissions and morons who brag about themselves in descriptions by promoting their SEO services and who are using submission scripts to submit their sites without reading guidelines to… who cares about categories.

Of course our editors will help submitter if he made mistake and submitted his shopping site to Recreation & Sports > Outdoors & Scouting instead of Auctions & Shopping > Outdoors, Sport & Recreation because it could be confusing and submitter definitely read and followed all guidelines.

Thousands of people submit sites with good titles and description and if they read and follow SG, they had no problems to have their sites listed. If you want to call it listing service then I have no problems with that. I have problems when instead of listing good submission with least amount of time some idiot with SEO tag on his forehead is trying to convert directory listing services into editing services.


I’m sure any directory operator would rather have spammers dead on arrival. Wouldn’t you?


mimika

[BobP]

I just went to add my site to Amray with the $5.99 express inclusion and while I could comply with almost everything, I could not because you insist my email be the same as my site domain. Some of us never open the site email system to avoid the possibility of it being hyjacked and used to send spam. The last thing I need is my site blacklisted by spamcop. We need rules, we also need exceptions.

[mimika]

@BobP

3 reasons

1. Your free for all email is throw away junk your domain is here to stay
2. If you can receive email for domain, then you’re the owner
3. It restricts SEOs to dump on us load of sites because they have to enter different functional email address for each site and that ain't going to happen

besides:
a) you can create alias with your domain for submission verification only
b) change that email as often as you want
b) delete at any time if you start getting spam

We only sent you email to inform you about outcome. Period



mimika