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[webseo]

I review free directories and lately I have been trying to quantify the "worth" of a directory. One of the things I have noticed is that some directories, do not show any PageRank on interior pages. The home page is fine, but nothing below that.

I have waited a while to make sure they aren't just too new for PR to show on the toolbar. For the ones that don't gain any interior PR after an toolbar PR update, I try and figure out why.

Some directories use redirect scripts between the pages (they have static links in their listings, but not in their on-site navigation), so that explains that. That leaves some that appear to have static navigation links, but never gain interior PR.

I have checked to make sure they aren't blocked in robots.txt also.

Anybody know why this is? I can list examples if necessary and OK with Dan's forum rules.

(BTW, I removed my link after reading the forum rules. You can find my site via my profile, if needed!! )

martin

[Tomas]

Some directories use redirect scripts between the pages (they have static links in their listings, but not in their on-site navigation), so that explains that.

Do you know which scripts or directories do that? That would also make them seo-unfriendly. Such a possibility didn't even occurred to me. I wonder that's their aim with that, nothing to gain....

As for the others.... some directories are badly indexed, some are PR2 yet have 100+ links on their main page thus there is little to pass.... examples would probably help - and yeah I think definitely in line with the rules...

[webseo]

Hi Tomas, Thanks for your interest.

In regards to examples of directories/scripts that use 302 redirects to link to interior pages, I'm trying to find one or two to post here. I didn't keep track of them as well as I thought.

In regards to directories/scripts that do not appear to pass PR to interior pages, yet appear to use interior static links, here are a couple:

I hate to list this one, because I like this directory as I actually get traffic from it, but it fits the criteria:

http://www.somuch.com/ has a PR of 6 and shows PR0 on interior pages. The links from the home page appear static and don't show as a redirect

Somuch doesn't have enough links on their homepage to dilute all of that PR6, so I am curious as to why it does not pass PR to interior pages.

Too make this example even more curious, links from somuch show up as back links in all three major SEs at various times.


http://www.clasione.com/ which is a PR4 uses the PHP Directory Script. The links appear static and don't show a redirect

I have only seen MSN show back links from this directory.

I have other examples like these on my site. Just look for a directory that, that shows PR, does not have a green background (interior PR) and has been on my list for at least 1 PR update.

Thoughts?

martin

[Tomas]

On Somuch, Home :: MS Developers :: ASP Sites shows PR2 to me, which isn't that bad.
For Clasione, yes I would expect categories of PR4 site to be more than PR1, not sure why is that...

[Nikkiblue]

Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly.

www.clasione.com/ -- I found backlinks in Google and PR2 categories. However the pages are not static.

I've been finding quite a few directories with PR0 category pages, but I assumed that the categories were new.

[webseo]

Originally Posted by Tomas

On Somuch, Home :: MS Developers :: ASP Sites shows PR2 to me, which isn't that bad.
For Clasione, yes I would expect categories of PR4 site to be more than PR1, not sure why is that...

This is strange. I guess we are seeing the same page with different toolbar PR (I've had someone else report seeing differences on PR between different toolbars)

I just checked Somuch MS Developers it shows PR0 on my toolbar, but PR3 on FutureRank tool

I will check this out, in depth, in bit (in the middle of a client problem now) and report back and/or provide other examples.

Thanks for looking.

martin

[Dan]

Martin,

You do raise an interesting point, and to my way of thinking, it comes down to indexed pages.

As you have seen others are seeing the PR, so it's too difficult a task to rely on just one voice. I think perhaps a few people need to work on that. Checking indexed pages and seeing if those indexed pages are passing the PR or not.

rel=nofollow is another consideration to take into account. Quite often the links appear seo friendly, and its very easy to mistake them for passing on PR, and yet there is that nofollow sitting in there, to prevent it from happening. We just have to be vigilant, and check each directory with the same pedantic set of rules so that we don't miss anything... takes longer but we get a better list.

[GeoFan49]

I've also noticed that very few of the dozens of directories I've looked at have any PR > 0 on interior pages. Perhaps it would be interesting to have a thread with statistics about which FREE directories have PR > 0 on any interior pages?

BTW, there's a nice page rank prediction tool at www.iwebtool.com and it allows you to keep a historical link for repeat tests, list of up to 10 urls.

http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_prediction

[Dan]

it is a good tool, but I wouldn't put too much faith in it. It is a guess at best (even the site owner's would agree with that). It can't accurately predict PR.

[webseo]

This whole interior PR issue is getting interesting.

I went back and re-reviewed all the directories reviewed on my site that didn't show any interior PR on my toolbar (that show home page PR) and most (see below for exceptions) have PR on the FutureRank tool at SeoChat (this one's not really a predictor tool, but it's the most consistent one I have found). I did notice that most of the ones that don't show on my toolbar have a query string in the url (ie: index.php?c=1). I wonder if that is the reason, but I'm under the impression that Tomas saw interior Toolbar PR on Somuch and Clasione. Correct? Weird!

I found a few directories that don't show interior PR on the toolbar or the tool:

http://www.site-lister.com/ is one. It's pretty new, so that may be why.

http://www.gdotz.com/ doesn't show interior PR. Not sure how new that one is.

http://www.bys.net/Arts+And+Humanities/ doesn't show interior PR, but I think it's real new.

I found a couple of directories not on Dan's list that may be worth investigating for the interior PR situation:

http://www.directorydelux.com shows PR one level down, but not two (my test criteria).

http://www.bulletize.com doesn't show PR on interior pages (one level down), but it may be too new.

I still need to look at the "Duds" and see if I can find the one(s) that used a 302s into categories.

Thanks for everyone's input on this. It has made it even clearer the amount of work it takes to maintain an accurate resource. Thanks again Dan for all the work you do (that helps me a lot).

martin