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[BobP]

With fewer then 10% of directories having any PR to speak of above zero I can well understand how most PR talk revolves around size doesn't matter. And I do understand if raising PR were easy all directories would be PR10. However, for the directory owner who would like to move from PR0 to PR1 or PR2, is there any advice that still works? And what to do if you've already been there done that and still don't have g's attention in a good way. Thanks. BobP

[drwebs]

Wish I had more information for you other then, get more content. Are you blogging? daily? content daily? I stopped looking at PR a long time ago, as of writing this I have PR 2. Not sure if it matters but I blog daily and write content daily.

By daily I mean I am doing something that is content based on a site that is linking to mine or on my site. I try to write two 500 word original articles a day.

It's not to hard. Kinda boring if you don't like the topics. Hair Shampoo? yuck!

Also I am doing the YouTube now. my latest is here

How to spot a fake web directory with PageRank

which just happens to be on the topic of fake PageRank.

here is some writing that is off topic: Survival Lighting Options

my point being just because you own a directory does not mean you have to write about a directory. If you know a lot about cars, why not churn out articles on cars? In the article you can review sites that service cars and link it back to your automotive section of your directory.

Good luck bud!

[YMC]

Do you have a page with banners and suggested text/code to link to your directory? People will use them if you provide them with good service.

[Dan]

I don't really advocate PR chasing, and it's kind've a dead past-time, but let's talk about it anyways.

Let's assume that we are talking about visible toolbar PR.

I don't think the requirements for it have changed.

The page you want the PR to improve for, needs to be linked to from other pages on the web with decent PR. That then indicates to Google (ok a handful of quite decent pages are linking to that page, it must have some relevancy on the topic, good content, or something of value).

Great Dan, so how do I get those links? Well, people used to buy them. Transparently. Above ground. On forums. From text link brokers. I've even seen people trying to sell on eBay.

In 2007 Google officially pulled the stone tablet out and declared Thou shalt not buy links. So people didn't... above ground.

So what happens now is people do exactly the same thing they always did, but in a black market way below ground. How do I know? I get probably 50 emails a week trying to sell me PR-based links.

There are also scammy businesses selling PR9 links all over forums (it's the big red and white banner you'll see it on some of the big webmaster forums dominating the skyline). At one point they were using adsense because for some reason Google doesn't mind you selling the heck out of PR if you do it via their adsense platform.

So your answer is. Buy links. I'm not suggesting you do it, I'm actually suggesting you don't.

But if you want to bump your green number up, that's what other people out there are doing to make their website look more important, and in most cases they are using expensive SEOs who tell you not to buy links, to do it (cos they tell you one thing to your face and then when they have your money they do exactly what they tell you not to).

It's why I've always said, forget PR and concentrate on your content. Because your content will get you ranked, the PR won't. All it does is just give you a different number next to your page...

[BobP]

Far as I can tell, the main purpose of PR to a directory owner is the greater the PR the greater the number of pay for review requests provided all things are in balance as to PR and Price as in a PR5 directory will have far more $10 pay for featured review purchases then a PR1.

Of course this tends to bring in lower quality sites that might bring down the PR so the directory owner needs to bring in non-paid sites of high quality to offset this in my opinion.

Not saying it is all about the money, just that kudos don't pay the rent, domain, hosting, etc. needs to be some reward for doing a good job.

One thing I learned today that may be old news, is the search engines count a site visit that doesn't move on to another page onsite as 0.0 time on site like a bounce. So if you search for your site using various search terms and visit your site, try to remain onsite for a reasonable amount of time like 3 minutes and move to an interior page(s) while onsite. BobP

[lakecountry]

There are so many different opinions on PR it makes me dizzy thinking about it but for me, after all is said and done, I think PR is still important. I have mulled this over for a long time and I guess I have convinced myself it's important. I know there are folks that say don't worry about it and that line reasoning is sound and I respect that opinion and I wish that is how it was. However, I think if we will admit it somewhere deep down we all want to see the green bar increase. Let's face it, the regular webmasters and site owners are going to look at it and will take a directory's PR in to consideration when making submissions. True story. I had a so called big league SEO firm (at least that's the label they applied to themselves ) call me about doing some bulk listings and the two things they centered on was PR and if the directories where on the same IP...that's a different discussion. Now I honestly thought these guys had it all backasswards and I found myself feeling as though I needed to defend what they considered my low pr...PR3.

Google could end all the controversy if they would simply stop showing the public tool bar Page Rank and or make a strong, definitive statement about it but they wont do it. Instead they continue to make it confusing by not directly addressing it or they drop these conflicting tidbits around then sit back and watch us have conversations like these. I wonder sometimes if they all sit around a giant monitor drinking lattes and laugh at us. Anyway, I think I remember reading where Matt Cutt was downplaying PR in an interview but at the same time proclaiming it a major factor in search engine ranking. If you look, just about every time G mentions organic search ranking, PR is usually the first (of many) factors mentioned. Of course they are not looking at it from the green bar perspective like we are but as long as that's all we have and as long as Google remains silent about it, we are going to look at the green pixels and want more of them...even if we won't admit it publicly.

I guess how to increase PR is the same as it has been and that's somehow getting links from high PR sites while staying under the radar if that's possible. I will say that the chasing page rank phenomenon is not nearly as bad as it was a few years ago and that's due in a large part to the people here educating us.

[Dan]

Just further to PR, it would seem that in this post-penguin directory-hating environment that directories are actually "holding" or "improving" PR. I am just running through a free list now, theres a couple of 7's a handful of 6's, a large number of 5's and a pretty big number of 4's.

Usually when I do a check like this (I am running through it for update to the IVS excel purposes) there is a lot of movement. 20-50 will drop out of that PR4+ bracket, but only a handful have. Seems to me to be pretty stable. A lot have improved from 4-to-5, and 5-to-6, there was one that went from 6-to-7 as well.